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SHOULD LAW-ABIDING MUSLIMS HELP STAMP OUT FANATICS?

Parvis Khan has been jailed for life

Tuesday February 19,2008

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A BRITISH-born Al Qaeda terrorist who raked in more than £22,000 a year in benefits was jailed for life yesterday for plotting to film the beheading of a British Muslim soldier.

Bearded fanatic Parviz Khan, 37, a jobless father-of-four, used a charity as a cover to ship cash and equipment to Taliban fighters killing British soldiers in Afghanistan.

Taxpayers had unwittingly funded his activities, which were also believed to have been sanctioned by Al Qaeda.

The court had heard that Khan had been drawing £424-a-week in benefits and boasted that Muslims could undermine the West by bleeding it dry financially.

He told a friend: "Muslims live here for one reason - to get their wealth and give it to the Muslims."

So what do you think we should do to protect ourselves from people like this? Should law-abiding Muslims step in to stamp out this sort of extremism?

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WILL2

12.03.08, 10:49pm

What I don't understand is why these immigrants/migrants/asylum seekers are allowed to vote.

Surely, it is up to the British public to vote, not people who have no clue about our system.

Most of us Brits can't get our head around that!

The Government got in at the last election with around 27% of the vote, so that means 73% didn't bloody want them in!

We need a politician who will stand up to these foreigners, tell them how it is here. People paying their taxes don't want Muslim laws, we want the foreigners who are here illegally and all of the bogus 'travelled via 12 countries' lot deported quick smart.

In other words, we want our country back!!

Before it is taken away from up permanently, either by the foreigners here, or by the EU paper shufflers in Brussels.

Don't care HOW we get it back, but that should be our goal.

• Posted by: SandieL • Report Comment

SANDIEL

10.03.08, 7:01am

They are not coming to Britain because they want democracy, they are coming to Britain because the government takes money from the taxpayer and gives it to them. Why is the government so generous? Because most immigrants will eventually have voting rights and, human nature being what it is, they will vote for the government that GIVES the most.
The same thing applies to them, as you say, “wanting THEIR ways here”. As long as the government gives away voting rights so easily, the immigrant groups will trade on their vote and try to negotiate ‘their ways’ as a part of the transaction. The more allowed in, the bigger, more demanding and more powerful, their voting bloc becomes. It disturbs me when I think of some of the things that might be up for negotiation in future, all traditional; honour punishments, forced marriages, female genital mutilation, termination of girl babies because of the dowry system, polygamy.
I entirely agree with your last paragraph.

• Posted by: Will2 • Report Comment

WILL2

09.03.08, 3:01pm

That begs the question:

If they don't want democracy in their country, why do they choose to come to ours, which is *SUPPOSED* to be a democracy??

I don't blame these countries for getting pee'd off for having our ways thrust on to them, who would?

But, they are leaving their own countries in droves, coming here to ours, then wanting THEIR ways here!!

We are, in effect, having a reversal of roles in a way, because we are now having their will thrust upon us.

If the Government were more restrained about wading in and bombing people, we may not have such a big problem.

• Posted by: SandieL • Report Comment

BROTHER AGAINST BROTHER?

09.03.08, 1:41pm

Law-abiding Muslims should NOT be expected to help stamp out fanatics. What is to gain by putting them at odds with their own people?
The Taxpayer, Muslims included, fund a Police Force, Special Branch, Military Forces, MI5, MI6, Customs & Excise, Border Force, Immigration Service and probably others we're unaware of. If any of these services are not up to the job, disband them and start again. Alternatively, the politicians must allow them to do their job, stop obstructing them and must stop nurturing terrorism by trying to impose democracy on nations that have never had it and don't want it.

• Posted by: Will2 • Report Comment

GARGOYLE

08.03.08, 10:37pm

Funnily enough, I posted this to back_to_basics on Thursday on another thread, maybe my request has come true:-

Nofree/Vince is on a right Muslim rant at the moment.

Just ignore him, I am now.

With luck, him and his alias' may just go away.

His pro-Muslim party poliitical broadcasts are just making me want to throw up.

People have been kicked off here for mentioning a certain party, but he sings the praises of Muslims, and gets away with it.

No doubt he will twitter on with some more left wing facts and figures.....

Let him talk to himself... someone may just cart him away.

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He could be in the funny farm, sucking Smarties as we speak!

• Posted by: SandieL • Report Comment

SANDIEL _ NOFREE

07.03.08, 10:08am

In NFSH previous post pointing out that Islam is peaceful, this comes straight off the internet, its written by Karen Armstrong, and is entitled, The True, Peaceful Face of Islam

But she goes on to say, and NFSH conveniently, omits this...

"So why the suicide bombing, the hijacking and the massacre of innocent civilians? Far from being endorsed by the Koran, this killing violates some of its most sacred precepts. But during the 20th century, the militant form of piety often known as fundamentalism erupted in every major religion as a rebellion against modernity."

What she is saying is this, how can you say that your religion is peaceful because of a few old words in an even older book, while at the same time, committing murder in its name, there is no logic to it.

How many times after an atrocity has been committed have we has a muslim "cleric" or "spokesman" saying "Islam is peaceful, this is against the koran" Maybe so, but saying you are peaceful and living in a peaceful law abiding manner is a totally different thing.

So on the theme of this article, until muslims start informing the Police about the activities of the fundamentalists/terrorists in their communties, and lets face it, they DO know them, and until root out the evil from their midst, there will never be peace in the World.

But muslim terrorism and extremism in now endemic across the world, so how can this ever happen?

There is no doubt that there is an attempt by islamic extremists going on right now to impose islam on the world. They have infiltrated every country, every society, and are attemting by violence and terrorism to get their way. The "peaceful" muslims are caught up in this, and by their silence are part of it.

Normal peaceful muslims are the ones who can end this, by being vocal in distancing themselves from the extremists, but dont hold your breath waiting for this to happen.

I EAGERLY AWAIT NFSH RESPONSE TO THIS......