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DEPORTED ASYLUM SEEKER NUMBERS FALL

Home Office figures show fall in asylum seeker deportations

Tuesday November 20,2007

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The number of failed asylum seekers removed from the UK has fallen again, according to new statistics.

The figures published by the Home Office show 3,120 asylum seekers and their dependants were removed in the three month period from July to September.

This is 18% less than in the same period last year and 5% less than in the previous three month period, from April to June.

The research shows the five nationalities accounting for the most removals were Turkish, Afghan, Serbian, Pakistani and Indian.

The third quarter statistics also show a jump in the number of new asylum applicants.

There was a 19% increase in applications from the April to June period to the July to September period. But the increase was less than 1% when the third quarter 2007 figures are compared with the same period in 2006.

According to the report, the increase in applications at this time of year has happened in each of the last 13 years and may be due to seasonal effects.

But Borders and Immigration Minister Liam Byrne said the cumulative figure for asylum applications so far this year showed levels at their lowest for 15 years.

These figures show a 7% fall when the total for January to September is compared with the same period last year. The Home Office said this was the lowest number of applications since 1992.

Mr Byrne also pointed to figures from the Border and Immigration Agency (BIA) which showed it had overseen a 15% increase in all enforced removals and voluntary returns in the July to September period.

AND AGAIN.

21.11.07, 3:30pm

2005 (the most recent reliable stats) from http://www.official-documents.gov.uk/document/cm71/7197/7197.pdf

People arriving in the UK: 565000
People leaving the UK: 380000 (sustaining the trend of increasing levels of emigration)
Net balance = +185000 people (not much in a country of 60 milion)

28% of migrants had definate jobs to go to.
15% arrived looking for work
25% arrived for formal study (most will leave)

44% of migrants state their intent to stay in the UK for only 1-2 years (a good situation to be in, they pay taxes and then leave before they become a burden on the state)

some preliminary statistics from national statistics online http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=260

In 2006, an estimated 191,000 more people immigrated to than emigrated from the UK. This net migration (the difference between immigration and emigration) was 53,000 lower than the 2004 estimate of 244,000, which was the highest since the method to calculate Total International Migration (TIM) was introduced in 1991. This decline was due to emigration increasing more than immigration.

An estimated 400,000 long-term migrants left the UK in 2006. This was the highest recorded level of emigration since TIM began and was 41,000 higher than the 2005 estimate.

some more interesting stats from http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=6
"The UK has an ageing population. This is the result of declines in the mortality rate and in past fertility rates. This has led to a declining proportion of the population aged under 16 and an increasing proportion aged 65 and over.

In every year since 1901, with the exception of 1976, there have been more births than deaths in the UK and the population has grown due to natural change. Until the mid-1990s, this natural increase was the main driver of population growth. Since the late 1990s there has still been natural increase, but net international migration into the UK from abroad has been an increasingly important factor in population change. In the year to mid-2006 natural change was an important driver of change accounting for 45 per cent of total change."

So yes, more and more people leaving. The population getting older, fertility rates declining. In order to have enough tax revenue to pay for public serivices (which will increase in cost as the population ages), and enough people working at a competitive level to keep the UK economy going, there needs to be growth. The engine for that growth is immigration. Pure and simple.

Bottom line 180000 people a year is nothing in a population of 60 milion, especially when many plan to go back within a few years.

I am however, glad that some people are making the attempt to argue constructively, instead of merely spewing bigoted rhetoric.

As for the rest of the comments, well, they are not really worth replying to. If one makes ignorant statments, or facist-like statements, one can be reasonably called an ignorant facist. To be called a 'traitor' or 'unpatriotic' is another matter. One would have to prove that i actively work against the interests of britain. You suggest that by making statments that disagree with yours, that i am a 'traitor' or conciously working against the interests of britain. Labelling things in such a way as to call disagreement 'traitorous' is facist. Not to mention narrow-minded and smelly.

• Posted by: Vince • Report Comment

THE DIFFERENCE IS I THINK IN A RATIONAL AND CONSIDERED WAY

20.11.07, 11:28pm

So do I Vince. That is why I checked out my facts before responding to your rant.You stated Britain experiences more out immigration than in immigration A clumsy way of expressing yourself if I may say so .I prefer to use the perfectly adequate words of Emigrate and Immigrate .According to NSOL.510.000 immigrants arrived into Britain in 2006 Meanwhile in the same year 210.000 British nationals emigrated Now math was never my best subject and maybe I have made a mistake in my calculation of there being a difference of 303.000 Which leaves a gaping hole in your arguement Also the question being debated in my considered opinion Is not about immigration Per-Se .It is in regard to the deportion of failed asylum seekers Two completely different issues You consider your self to give Rational and give considered thought before jumping to conclusions .Really?

• Posted by: Jay_R • Report Comment

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM?

20.11.07, 10:32pm

What is wrong with those that have the charge of the deportation of failed asylum seekers and others who have no right to be here?
There does not appear to be a system laid down to deal with deportations, we get little snippets as today 'deported asylum seeker numbers fal' Who is going to ask WHY?
Its not good enough just to say they fell,fell from what, what is the quota per month,per week? Why is it no adhered to?
We do not know, so why tell us its fallen,it should not fall, it should be stricktly organised until the last one has gone. Look around the towns and cities it is not logical that a large influx of people , in a short space of time ,can all be legal. Are they falling down on the job,through lack of proper organisation ? if so something should be done about it pronto

• Posted by: Maggie • Report Comment

STATISTICS...

20.11.07, 7:19pm

Don’t forget: it is Labour who have lowered educational standards. They have inflicted mediocrity on every level in an attempt to instil a fake sense of equality. Now our kids are suffering.

Kids aren’t being taught anything of any real value; the National Curriculum is a hotchpotch of ministerial meddling.

On immigration – yes; stats can be twiddled, but there have been several polls, all with roughly the same result; that is the majority oppose immigration; the majority want foreign criminals and illegal immigrants deported as soon as possible.

Does this make them right? Well, as tax-payers living in a democracy, I’d say yes.

You called someone an ignorant fascist (your 3:53 post) and now you’re upset because you’ve been called unpatriotic?

I too like to debate rationally, but calling someone an ignorant fascist isn’t the best way to get the ball rolling.

You want the best for your country? Then let’s discuss the foreign criminals and the illegal immigrants who should not and don’t need to be here.

Your call!

• Posted by: back_to_basics • Report Comment

UNPATRIOTIC

20.11.07, 6:55pm

Any idea where those statistics came from?
Heres a set of statistics for you:

"One in 10 of the 2,000 adults questioned in the survey commissioned by Blenheim Palace thought that Adolf Hitler was not a real person, and half were convinced that King Arthur existed.

Almost three-quarters did not know that the Battle of Blenheim took place 300 years ago, even though it is one of the greatest British military triumphs. Fewer than one in eight had heard of John Churchill, the first Duke of Marlborough, who led the British to victory against the French and for whom the palace was built by the nation as a reward.

A quarter of the adults were unsure whether the Battle of Trafalgar was a real historical event, and more than half thought that Horatio Nelson commanded British troops at the battle of Waterloo. Similarly, one in seven Britons did not know that the Battle of Hastings was real."

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/04/04/nhitler04.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/04/04/ixhome.html

Chances are the sample for that survey was daily express readers.

Even if a majority opposed immigration (which you have to remember, polls are always very dubious and easily tinkered with), it doesn't mean they are right. The majority of Germans had no real probem with Hitler's policies, does that make them right?

And before you say 'well, if you don't respect the wishes of the majority, you are not democratic, you should ask yourself who are you to label anyone 'unpatriotic'? I want what is best for this country, just like you. The difference is, I think about these things in a rational and considered way, not through a lens of bigotry. The british birth rate is too low, Britain experiences more out migration than in-migration, and there is a real lack of skills, inflating the cost of everything.
If you shut the door, you will be following countries like france and italy, with their lousy economies. Is that what you want?

• Posted by: Vince • Report Comment

OH DEAR OH DEAR...

20.11.07, 6:33pm

If Vince and his ilk manage, somehow, to 'purge' this country of anyone opposed to immigration, then all that will remain will be the Searchlight brigade and the immigrants.
(Ha! What a vision that presents!)

Recap - 75% of the British public are opposed to immigration; only 4% actively support immigration.

• Posted by: back_to_basics • Report Comment