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Should all knives be banned from streets?

WITH courts handing knives back to youths following their release, is it about time blades are banned altogether?

SELF DEFENCE IMPLEMENTS!

30.06.08, 4:17am


I carried knives for over 25 years - until the Law on knives changed, in fact! Not once in that quarter of a century did I ever pull one of those knives on anybody in anger or without their weapon/s being shown to me, first. My knife wasn't an offensive weapon...it was a Self Defence Implement. The privileged Police use weapons on humans, every day, but (naturally), when they use them, they're called "Self Defence Implements"!

How you intend to use such things is what gives them their respective names!

I am one reason to believe that the Government's policy on ALL KNIVES being disallowed for ALL PEOPLE in the country, is hopelessly wrong and, for the most part, will be simply ignored! There are responsible carriers of knives and there are irresponsible carriers of knives!

Our self defence baby has been knee-jerkily thrown out with the bath-water of offensive weapons hysteria!

Many times, during those 25 years, I had to pull a knife and sternly indicate my readiness to use it in self-defence, because somebody else was seconds away from attacking me with their own or with another type of weapon. On no occasion did I have to go further and the assailants walked away, or ran away - swearing, yes, but they went away and that was the idea of my knife!

Once it was finished with, it went back in my pocket.

I wasn't carrying that knife to execute unprovoked injury: it was there to give me A GREATER THAN ZERO CHANCE OF SURVIVING SOMEBODY ELSE'S KNIFE!

And, it did that job - brilliantly - all the way through that quarter of a century! It was my old faithful "sidearm" and it was a part of my pocket's daily life!

I didn't cruise the streets to attack people with it! I didn't amble around my home town hunting for people to stab, to see what would happen! I didn't use the presence of that knife in my pocket to make myself appear "big" or "tough", or to get spending money for the weekend! I carried it because of that knife's ability to make me able to go my way and not feel as vulnerable as the our myopic Government's current over-response to the bearership of knives and their responsible use leaves me feeling, now!

IT'S BETTER TO HAVE A SELF-DEFENCE IMPLEMENT AND NOT NEED IT THAN IT WILL EVER BE TO NEED A SELF-DEFENCE IMPLEMENT AND NOT HAVE IT!

Once the others about to attack me walked away, my own knife was closed and put back in the pocket from which it had been taken, and I continued on my way, happy at the deterrent effect it had had! Given that NONE of those potential attackers ever followed me and that I never had trouble from them, again, my own purpose in carrying a blade...was fulfilled!

I COULD STILL BE THAT SAFE, THAT CALM AND THAT CONFIDENT, HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THIS INTERFERING GOVERNMENT'S OBSESSION WITH BANNING EVERY METALLIC ITEM EVER MENTIONED IN THE MEDIA!

It's only a matter of time before they begin banning: ballpens, cigarette lighters, metal combs, trouser belt buckles, Coca Cola can ring-pulls, and front door keys!

Any fool who is ready to carry a knife purely as an offensive weapon and abuse it in a criminal manner is not going to be discouraged by Laws. In fact, the minds of most of those irresponsible animals are almost certainly not even stroked against by the imagined "Spectre" of "The Law" - they just take their knives along with them, take out their knives and USE THEM!

They laugh at Laws! That's what thugs do just before breaking them Laws and that's what gives them the continued title of "Thugs"!

The Lawmakers' hysteria about banning knives is becoming a typically British joke!

The wish to keep people safer is commendable, but it's not good to do it by blanket-banning in a country that subscribes to the commendable notion that, (1) if the British have nuclear weapons, other countries will be seriously UNLIKELY TO ATTACK THEM and (2) if their Police Officers carry killer-grade weapons, the bad guys will be DETERRED FROM USING THEIRS. Youths learn a lot from adults, even when they are determined not to!

That same principle can be made to work for us, in the street - it did it for me, for greater than 25 years! The only blood I ever had on my knife was my own, from clumsy sharpening!

That existence of nuclear Self Defence Implements, and the existence of Police Officers' Self Defence Implements, shows that possession of equalising Self Defence Implements is, as if we need to wonder, the only good deterrent to being attacked by those offensive weapons belonging to others!

• Posted by: TheGodSplinter • Report Comment

MAKE IT SIMPLE

29.06.08, 7:52pm

Attack with a knife should be classified as attempted murder ........ with a minimum 10 year (no remission) sentence...

Lets see how many neds are prepared to risk that....

• Posted by: Eltorro • Report Comment

DUST IS MAN

23.06.08, 3:49pm


Genesis 1:1,27-30
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

but the heart of man is evil : Genesis 6:5-8
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

The imagination of man is evil
Man made Bomb to destroy each other
Man made knive to slaughter a living
Man made deceit money to cheat each other
Man made passport to marginalize another

"...For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away." James 4:14

Jesus is Lord






• Posted by: Jesus_Speaks • Report Comment

FICTION

18.06.08, 6:12pm

i expect better of you ziggly. you know it is an incredibly daft thing to say

'there are no burglaries in switzerland'

no burglaries? give me a break.

"Crime rates are low by international standards. Muggings and burglaries are on the increase and are often related to narcotics. More cases of banking secrecy laws attracting laundered funds are coming to light."

the actual theft rate is 3347 per 100 000 population.
http://dev.prenhall.com/divisions/hss/worldreference/CH/crime.html

wow, another right winger getting it wrong...



• Posted by: Prawnsandwich • Report Comment

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WE COULD LEARN A LESSON FROM THE OLD SWISS.

09.06.08, 10:33am

All home owners have guns in Switzerland. There are no burglaries in Switzerland.

• Posted by: Zeigfreid • Report Comment

PRAWN...

09.06.08, 6:53am

"great use of america as an example.

a country notorious for violent crime, and one of the highest rates of murder in the developed world."

I'd much rather walk around Brooklyn at present than Brixton.

With a UK population of 60 million people vs 301 million in the United States (2007 estimates) one would *expect* violent crime numbers to be proportionally higher, just like road accident figures, etc.

To use these statistics to infer violent tendency as you are is nonsense. Try living in the United States a few years. You can sit with 80,000+ fans at an American football game and never catch a whiff of the foul chanting you do at some football matches in the UK, let alone any violence. Does that mean Brits are more violent because a minority can't behave at sporting events? Of course not.

If you're saying Americans are bad because they have guns, consider this.

"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."

Perhaps if this were the case in our green and soggy land we could do a little more than impotently piss and moan as our Orwellian government gives it away to Brussels.

• Posted by: legalal • Report Comment

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YES...............

08.06.08, 12:57pm

I have had a knife pulled on me by a little **** who decided he wanted my pizza after a night out....
According to Gordan Clown and his tinpot goverment the rate of violent attacks has gone down!!! Whos he kidding? over the last two weeks or so how many have lost there lives to knife attacks (This is violent crime is it not)

• Posted by: frankie07 • Report Comment

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CSTEVENS YOU ARE SO RIGHT

08.06.08, 11:58am

The more the density of immigrant population the higher the knife crime.
Some cultures are more entwined with knives/weapons than others. So why does this wishy washy govt go out of its way to pretend we are all the same. Why would I be classed as racist if I stated that one race would be more likely to carry knives than another if that fact were true ?
Its time the truth was sought, made public, and acted on !

• Posted by: marigold • Report Comment

THE ELEPHANT IN THE DRAWING ROOM

08.06.08, 11:05am

Those who state Britain is in the grip of an epidemic of Knife crime are either ignorant or out to purposelessly deceive.

A glance of the names, and the description of the perpetrators (the latter often omitted by the National media), show the majority of these crimes are committed by Non-Whites.

Until the the National media and the Politicians, stop ignoring the Elephant in the Drawing room - which is obvious the rest of us - and take measures to halt and reverse the 'Diversity' found in our cities, the bloodshed will get worse.

We do not have a knife problem, we have a IMMIGRANT problem.

• Posted by: cstevens • Report Comment

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SHOULD ALL KNIVES BE BANNED FROM STREETS?

08.06.08, 2:40am

Well of course, it goes without saying. Anyone carrying a knife or any other weapon is planning somewhere down the line to use that weapon. If they are all banned then less violent crime, will be committed. If the gansters want to kill each other I don't even care, good riddance to bad rubbish as far as I'm concerned. It's the poor innocent victims I'm thinking about.

• Posted by: yokosmile • Report Comment

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ELTORRO

07.06.08, 10:51pm

That is extremely concerning and something must be done.

BTW, you mention Bedfordshire - a predominantly rural county. Yes, that is true, except in places like Luton. Need I say more?




• Posted by: Peter_Pan • Report Comment

PRANSANDWICH ETC.......

07.06.08, 8:44pm

From October 2007, Google the words if you want to read it all.



The full extent of stabbings and robberies at knifepoint is made

clear in the country's first census of knife crime.

Police recorded 5,023 serious knife crimes in England and Wales in

the first three months after they began to count the offences as a

separate crime category last spring. It is equivalent to about 400

offences per week.



The highest rate is in London, where every resident has a one-in-

1,100 chance of falling victim over the course of a year.

Londoners stand more chance of being stabbed or robbed at knifepoint

than of being killed or seriously injured in a road accident.

Manchester and Birmingham are near the top of the league with shire

counties having much lower rates of knife crime. However,

Bedfordshire, a predominantly rural county, reports the third-worst

rate.

The findings give the clearest picture yet of the extent of the

"knife culture" on the nation's streets. The statistics, compiled in

line with Home Office instructions, include only such serious

offences as attempted murder, wounding and knifepoint robbery.

Totals would have been higher had ministers not told forces to

exclude thousands of less serious offences, including possession of

knives and stabbings that caused only minor injuries.

.......................................................
The last paragraph shows how the goverment manipulate crime figures, and how people like prawnsandwich can get misled.

• Posted by: Eltorro • Report Comment

PRAWNSANDWICH

06.06.08, 8:56pm

So on knife crime everything is hunky dory ... we are all happy .... in the year to March 2008 there were 10,220 crimes ... excellent, we can all live with that eh?

Unfortunatunate the number of deaths from knife crime rose.....

Last year 27 teenagers in London met violent deaths, compared with 17 in 2006 and 15 in 2005.

But I guess we can put up with that eh ?

And all this in the London Metroploitan area, I shudder to think what the cumulative figures for the whole UK are.

Job done .. problem solved.

• Posted by: Eltorro • Report Comment

BAN NULAB THUGS

06.06.08, 7:16pm

This was caused by Guardian reading LIEbrals hugging hoodies.The silet majority must brign back national service and caning in scools. PS If you are offended by this ten leave the country!

• Posted by: Bulldog4ever1933 • Report Comment

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DODGY MANIPULATED GOV STATS YET AGAIN

06.06.08, 6:44pm

Change the record Prawny no one except you believes them

• Posted by: PaulH • Report Comment

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