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ARTICLE SUMMARYHarry arrives back in the UKA BITTERLY disappointed Prince Harry arrived home in the UK from Afghanistan today. |
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LUCABRASI
03.03.08, 2:38pm
If you read back you will see that I said my husband was on guard duty at Brize on Saturday - I didnt say he was flying home with Harry et al.
There is a lot more to the role of the serving person than fighting on the front lines. Many other roles are played out daily that people have no understanding of, or forget about. Fire strikes, flood relief, search and rescue, humanitarian aid worldwide - even the everyday jobs of mail handling, cookng for several thousand troops on board a ship or routine maintenance on the fleets of aircraft. The list is endless
The roles they play overseas are mostly dictated by politics - but it is not a political statement I am making when I stand at the main gate and wave them all home again.
I will and I do show my public support any which way I can. Which is why when Harry flew in on Saturday I was there to show HIM that support.
What cost a little respect? Nothing !
Posted by: Vikster Report Comment
VIKSTER
02.03.08, 3:47pm
You never said you were there for your husband, you made it sound like you were there for Harry. Because my comments still stand for those who may have been.
You presume too much about my lack of loyalty & patriotism. I know I owe my freedom of speech to the brave men who waded ashore at Normandy, (my Father was in the second wave)
Even though I fought on the Falklands and my Son is on his second tour of Helmand province, I promise I wont take my so-called rudeness for granted.
Posted by: Lucabrasi Report Comment
LIBRA
02.03.08, 12:43am
Well said!!
What you said about Harry having anonimity was exactly my point when I pointed out he had no name on his hat, could do what he wanted and no one knew who he was.
Someone pointed out the SAS were guarding him.
So what, WHO were guarding the SAS?? I think people forget that this is a war zone. The people in Afghanistan are lunatics and every soldier there is at risk of being blown up at any second.
Because Harry (& his guards) went there, proves that he has courage.
Unlike some people slagging him off on here.
He HAS the choice to go or not to go. He chose to go to fight for his country. Personally, I don't think any of our services should be there AT ALL, but for him to want to join his men there says a lot more about him than sitting in a night club in London ever could.
Our media kept quiet about this, it is the American who released the story who should be getting the flak, not Prince Harry and not the royal family.
Posted by: SandieL Report Comment
TIME TO SEPARATE FORCES FROM ROYALTY
01.03.08, 11:54pm
Harry being there could put other members of the armed forces at higher risk, the time he served there was minimal and he was soon flown home when the secret got out, not quite the same as other lads left there.
OK he went to a war zone like he wanted to and I think he would have rather stayed longer but powers that be not prepared to take any risks like they do with other lads, do they all have a camera crew to keep them company I don't think so.
I believe royalty wearing officers uniform without taking same risk as others is wrong so the forces should not be connected with royalty just for the show of it and titles.
Posted by: CAN Report Comment
THANKS YANKS!
01.03.08, 11:48pm
Once again the Yanks have stuck the boot in! Thay do it in every war that they have dragged us into over recent years! The lad can't do right for doing wrong!! Still, no one can say he hasn't got guts! Because it takes lots of strength to go into a war zone and carry out a days work fighting the enemy, and then another and another! I am quite sure that the people of this country can be extremely proud of Harry, and yes!, he is a born leader and a very fine example to the young people of this country! If it were possible, he would still be out in the thick of it, and yes, he would die for his Queen and country because he has steel in his backbone, which is sadly lacking in the young of today! Our politicians could take a leaf out of his book! Pigs are likely to fly past my window before that happens though!
Posted by: peterthepainter Report Comment
FOR ROTHAYMERE
01.03.08, 11:01pm
Since my following post was put onto a thread which has now gone off the first page, just for you I am posting it again here......
I really don't need a lecture on what soldiers think and don't think. My father went to war in 1939, at the age of 19, and by 21 he was the youngest Lt. Col. in the British army. He was a career soldier, so I lived with the army all around me for the first 19 years of my life. Do you have such personal knowledge of soldiering?
The point everybody is missing, in my opinion, is that for Harry his anonymity in Afghanistan was the most wonderful experience of his life. He did not have the press around him 24/7 and the interviews were only to placate the papers and TV channels and help to keep their silence so that they could release the footage once he was out of the war zone.
Do none of you remember the 12 year old walking behind his mother's coffin through the streets of London with the eyes of the whole world on him?
How dignified the little fellow was. What terrible trauma was that for him? Does nobody want to give him an ounce of credit for anything.
The Queen's husband, son and grandson have fought for their country and how proud she must be of all of them. The Queen has served her country for sixty years, night and day, year in year out - nobody knows more about service to her country and her people than she does and I feel soooooooo sorry for her that she has to read all this garbage about her grandson.
I think she has every reason to be enormously proud of William and Harry - as does Charles - and as would Diana were she still here.
Posted by: Libra Report Comment
SANDIEL
01.03.08, 10:41pm
I don't theink people are specifically attacking Prince Harry,it is the medie coverage that they are objecting to.But to reasonably think nobody knew who Harry was or that he recieved no different treatment is being a bit naive.There is no way his treatment could possibly have been the same as other soldiers'.He had sas guarding him for a start.But the whole action of allowing him to go could have put others at risk,especially as a lot of people's total discretion was involved,and secrets do have a nasty habit of coming out, especially as soon as even one other person is involved.
Posted by: miasara Report Comment
10 DAYS??
01.03.08, 10:32pm
The article says 10 weeks, the same as I have heard on the TV news.
Where you to get 10 days from??
To me all of the military personnel sent over there on a fools errand (B Liar being the fool) are heroes.
As I said earlier, Harry could have sat on this backside creaming in the cash, but he wanted to go, he went as an anonymous soldier, no name on his hat, no one knew who he was, and has had to return.
Whether the man owns whatever isn't the point here. He has given out information on the whereabouts of Prince Harry which has endangered ALL of the troops out there, no JUST Prince Harry.
Whether Harry is riding a bike, on patrol or whatever, you can't call him for that. The men have to have some way of letting off steam.
I think they make the best of a bad job out there. Are they supposed to just sit and wait to be shot at by the Taliban??
Posted by: SandieL Report Comment
GORDONBENNET
01.03.08, 9:36pm
Exactly,but this is also the same Des browne that flew to camp Bastion and when questioned by troops about some of their treatment stated that soldiers were not too bright anyway.What a great choice for a defence minister.Idiot.
Posted by: miasara Report Comment
MIASARA..
01.03.08, 9:21pm
Des Browne called the "15 Iranian tourist" (Mr Bean & co) heroes.
That alone sums up Mr Des Brown.
Posted by: GordonBennett Report Comment
ROTHAYMERE
01.03.08, 9:05pm
I think you are as angry as I am about the media frenzy this ridiculous story has created.It is not a personal attack on Harry but why were the good old BBC following him around? How did we get Harry,my story, before he was even back on British soil? Why is Jon Snow being villified for even beginning to criticise this story? Apert from anything have the british public really forgotten that we were told Afghanistan was not a war but practically a peace keeping mission to remove the Taliban and restore some order to the Afghan people. Does nobody care that yet again we have sacrificed young men and women for another lie by this Government? And the likes of des Browne,Gordon Brown and good old Blair have not even attended a funeral of one soldier who was killed in Iraq or Afghanistan.Even Bush had enough decency to attend a funeral.Yet the same Des Browne calls Harry a fine example to our young.Harry is 23,there are troops in both conflicts aged 18 who are already dead and buried,weren't these an example?
Posted by: miasara Report Comment
WHILE I'M ON THE SUBJECT....
01.03.08, 8:56pm
of this appalling coverage of "HERO HARRY" What about Shannon? Why is this story not being reported ? Are her family not middle class enough? Not from the right part of the country? What is happening to our society that seems more interested in Harry getting off a plane than a 9year old child who is God knows where.
Posted by: miasara Report Comment
MIASARA - THANK YOU. I APPLAUD YOUR POST.
01.03.08, 8:55pm
You see things as they really are. As I do. The glorification of Harry's 10 days makes me sick. That is not what the British soldier is experiencing there.
This is what is happening in the location that Harry spent 10 days in: "Fighting The Taliban documents the bravery and increasing exhaustion of British soldiers as their supplies of food and ammunition run low, and morale ..."
That of course mentions nothing of the devastation to the civilians. Not the least of which is the fact that 60 a day die from stepping on landmines - something Harry's mother was very interested in,. Yet he is quoted as saying Mummy would have a giglgle knowing where he was for 10 days.
Harry was devastated. The people of Afghanistan are devasted 24/7, not just for 10 days.
Thanks Miasara for telling it like it really is.
Posted by: Rothaymere Report Comment
THE NEWSPAPER'S ARTICLES ON PHILIP AND THE NAZIS, AND THE SAME ON HARRY AND HIS BRAVE STINT AT THE WAR FRONT IN AFGHANISTAN
01.03.08, 8:46pm
Anyone given to thinking seriously about world news and particularly about world wars, would have reason to pause after reading this diametrically opposite articles on wars, past and present, and the Royal Family.
It beggars the mind when one sees headline such as Philip and the Nazis. I flinched when I read that. I wondered how on earth the press got away with that. If they did. It would seem they did not.
It is my personal opinion, mine alone, and I am entitled to it, the newspaper that printed that headline: Philip and the Nazis, had some apologizing to do. I so stated when it came out. In fact I was very vociferous in suggesting that the newspaper owed the Royal Family an apology.
It is my personal opinion, mine alone, THAT THE NEWSPAPER WENT ONE BETTER THAN THAT, GOT THE REST OF THE PRESS TO SHUT UP FOR 10 DAYS, AND SET THE SCENE FOR THE ROYAL FAMILY'S NEW LOOK: A SECRET HERO IN THE FAMILY.
That is my opinion and I hold to it. I give Harry due respect for being where he was for 10 days, but I don't like how he was portrayed for those 10 days. BECAUSE HARRY'S 10 DAYS WERE NOT AND NEVER CAN BE WAR AS IT REALLY IS. And there is plenty of war coverage to give the lie to what was said about his 10 days. I read other newspapers. Foreign ones too.
Posted by: Rothaymere Report Comment
HARRY THE "HERO"
01.03.08, 8:40pm
I am so annoyed at the reporting of this story.What it seems to me is Harry got his own way regardless of the risk to anybody else.An awful lot of people had to be involved in the decision of allowing Harry to venture into Afghanistan,and the subsequent news blackout.This was taking a huge risk that not one other person was going to say anything to anybody,whoever made that final decision would have weighed up the risk of a leak,even just a reporter telling a friend could have been disastrous,and duly decided it was worth it because it was what Harry wanted.Harry stated he just wanted to be treated like everybody else,oh really? I doubt he really would,lack of safety equipment,lack of basic provisions,leave cancelled because of shortage of planes to lift troops out of Afghanistan.Would Prince Harry have had to lie injured for 5 hours because there was no helicopter available to airlift him to safety,of course not.To top it all he then states he doesn't even like England much anyway.so we can rule out patiotism as his reason for wanting to fight.The press have practically canonised a very priviliged young man who's experience of Afghanistan will be very different from the mere mortals in the British army.He just might be a nice lad wanting to go and use the skills he has learned but one thing he definitely is not is a hero,to persist in calling him this is a gross insult to our underpaid and undervalued troops both in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by: miasara Report Comment